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Ideal Flow/Return Thermistor Fault

Get it checkedBoilerVogue Gen2 and Vogue Max, Combi and System; not in the 2013–2017 Vogue menuLast updated

A Vogue Gen2 or Vogue Max message naming both temperature sensors at once. Ideal's checks are whether each thermistor is clipped securely to its pipe and whether both read the right resistance.

Take care

Some of this is safe to check yourself, but the repair itself is not. If the fault comes back after one reset, stop resetting it and get a Gas Safe registered engineer to look at the Ideal properly.

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What this means

The Vogue Gen2 and Max have three thermistor rows in their fault menu where a Logic has two. Flow Thermistor Fault and Return Thermistor Fault each point at one sensor; this third message names the pair, and Ideal's remedy for it is different in kind from the others.

Rather than a resistance test on a single named sensor, the chart says: first, check that the flow and return thermistors are securely clipped to their pipes; second, check both against the values in the flow thermistor section — 9,700 to 10,300 ohms at 25°C, 2,400 to 2,600 at 60°C, 1,000 to 1,100 at 85°C. The sequence gives the mechanism away. Both sensors on a Vogue are clip-on NTCs that read the pipe through contact, and one that has slipped off its pipe reads the air in the casing, which lags and drifts as the boiler warms.

The board sees two readings that cannot both be true of the same water and, unable to say which is lying, blames the pair. Ideal do not publish the exact test that trips it, and this page will not guess; what they do publish is that it is a clip check before it is a parts job.

What causes it

Causes of Ideal Flow/Return Thermistor Fault, most common first
CauseWhat is actually happeningHow likely
Thermistor clip loose or sensor off its pipeIdeal's first check, and the reason this message exists separately from the single-sensor ones. A sensor reading casing air instead of pipe metal produces a pair of temperatures that make no sense together.Common
One sensor drifted out of toleranceAn NTC that reads a few kilohms high at 25°C still reports a plausible temperature, just the wrong one. Only comparing the two exposes it, which is what this row is for.Occasional
Wiring to one sensor intermittentA high-resistance joint in the harness adds ohms to one reading and not the other. Seen as a message that comes and goes with vibration or temperature.Occasional

Can you fix it yourself?

What it costs to fix

Typical repair cost

£70–£160

Time on site

30 minutes

A clip re-seated is a call-out, £70–£100. A replacement thermistor on a Vogue is £80–£160 fitted; both together at the top of the range.

Typical UK prices including parts and labour, updated September 2026. Your quote may differ.

Parts you may need

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Ideal Logic flow or return thermistor (clip-on NTC)

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Common questions

Is this the same as Flow/Return Reversed?

No. Flow/Return Reversed means the return is reading hotter than the flow, and Ideal's remedy is aimed at the flow thermistor. This message means the two readings are inconsistent in some other way, and both sensors are checked.

Can I keep using the boiler?

Not usefully. The board controls the burner from these two readings, and while it cannot trust them it will not run normally. It is not a gas safety message, but it is a stoppage until the sensors are checked.

Which sensor do I need?

Possibly neither. Ideal put the clip check first because a sensor that has slipped off its pipe needs re-seating, not replacing. If a part is needed, the resistance test says which one.

Written by

Andrew Pickett

Researcher and writer

Last updated

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