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0800 111 999Viessmann F.369 fault codewhat it means and how to fix it
The flame lit and was lost within the safety time on a 2020-on Vitodens; F.380 is the same row. Burner locked out. Gas supply, flue recirculation and the ionisation electrode need a Gas Safe engineer.
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What F.369 means
F.369 and F.380 share their cause word for word: "Flame is lost immediately after flame formation (during safety time)." Both are "Burner in a fault state". The safety time is the few seconds after ignition during which the control unit will tolerate an unstable flame before it must decide; a flame that appears and dies inside that window is a burner that lit on something — gas at the wrong pressure, air with flue gas in it, a mixture the electrode could barely see — and could not hold. The measures are the same for both numbers: "Check gas supply (gas pressure and gas flow switch). Check balanced flue system for flue gas recirculation. Check ionisation electrode: clearance to burner gauze assembly, contamination on electrode." F.369 ends "Reset the appliance"; the F.380 row does not print the line but the reset is the same.
The flue gas recirculation check is the one to take seriously. A balanced flue whose inner pipe leaks into the outer, or whose terminal is positioned so that exhaust is drawn back into the air intake, feeds the burner its own products; the flame lights and then starves. Viessmann put that check second, before the electrode, on every flame-loss row in the table. Gas flow pressure that collapses when the valve opens — a sticking regulator, an undersized or partly blocked supply — is the first. The electrode's gap to the burner gauze is a precise setting and the reason a cleaned-and-refitted electrode can still fail. The householder's part is a single reset and a call if it recurs; there is nothing to adjust from outside the case. F.381 (and F.378) is the same loss later, once the burner was established; F.64 is the version the boiler recovers from by itself.
What causes it
| Cause | What is actually happening | How likely |
|---|---|---|
| Gas flow pressure collapsing on demand | Static pressure fine, working pressure not. A regulator, meter or supply-pipe problem; Viessmann's first measure names the gas pressure and the gas flow switch. | Common |
| Flue gas recirculation | Exhaust drawn back into the combustion air through a leaking flue or a badly placed terminal. Second in the row; a flue inspection rather than a part. | Common |
| Ionisation electrode gap or contamination | The electrode too far from the gauze, or coated. Reads a weak signal and the unit drops the flame. | Common |
| Gas solenoid valve sluggish | A valve that opens late or unevenly gives a flame that flutters and fails inside the safety time. Confirmed by the contractor's pressure readings. | Occasional |
Can you fix it yourself?
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What it costs to fix
Typical repair cost
£80–£300
Time on site
1h 30m
Electrode and visit at the low end; flue repair or gas train at the top. A supply-pressure problem may be the gas network's to fix.
Typical UK prices including parts and labour, updated September 2026. Your quote may differ.
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Related Viessmann fault codes
- F4Stop — call an engineerNo flame signal was detected during burner start on any two-character Vitodens, so the burner has locked out. Reset once; if it returns, call a Gas Safe engineer.Related: ignition and gas supply
- F.65Stop — call an engineerNo flame signal at burner start on a 2020-on Vitodens — the numeric table's equivalent of F4. Burner locked out. Check the gas is on, reset once; if it returns, call a Gas Safe engineer.Related: ignition and gas supply
- F3Stop — call an engineerThe control unit saw a flame signal before it had opened the gas — a flame where there should be none, or a false signal from the ionisation electrode. Lockout; Gas Safe engineer.Related: ignition and gas supply
- E5Get it checkedViessmann call E5 an "internal fault" but their only instruction is to check the ionisation electrode and its cables — a flame-monitoring fault, blocked not locked, and one for a Gas Safe engineer.Related: ignition and gas supply
- F.357Get it checkedInsufficient gas supply on a 2020-on Vitodens. F.353 is the softer version with output reduced; F.467, F.383 and F.384 blame calibration or a contaminated gas line. Check the gas is on, then call an engineer.Related: ignition and gas supply
- F.359Stop — call an engineerNo ignition spark on a 2020-on Vitodens, so the burner locked out before it could light. Ignition electrode, ignition module or heat management unit: a Gas Safe engineer's diagnosis.Related: ignition and gas supply
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